• Kasey

    Thanks for the comment Rich. It’s an interesting debate for me because I practice in the space. Advising any PR pro, I’d definitely encourage them to get involved. But if you’re a seasoned PR pro at a large agency, how vital is being active online? Where’s the line between having a basic understanding and being active?

    Thanks again.

  • Kasey

    Thanks, Bridget. I’m in the same boat as you. In a team setting, certain people have certain expertise. This doesn’t mean we should ignore social or be oblivious to it, but it does mean we can be successful without being emerged in it. Again, be aware, but I don’t see it as requirement for success.

  • Kasey

    Agree, we should have understanding, but should we all be active?

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  • Kasey

    Do we need to be active to understand? Can’t we have an understanding by observing, yet not being active?

  • Kasey

    Thanks for your input, Jason. Appreciate your view on an interesting topic.

  • http://twitter.com/rpulvino Rich Pulvino

    I'm going to have to side with Rachel on this one. Kasey, you do bring up some good points about if you're sole reason to be on social networks is to push your products/clients, then you're right, you should either not be in the space, or adjust the goals behind your actions.

    Though as PR practitioners, we're supposed to be familiar, aware and analytical of the publics that pertain to our clients. The financial institution you worked for may have had solid relationships with financial reporters and you're focus may have been on trade, but those trades and media outlets may be on social networks, releasing important information that is relevant to the industry. Why wouldn't you want to follow them and see what they're releasing? It may be different/new information that isn't on their website yet.

    Social is not the answer to everything, but if you don't dive in and learn how to use the tools, it does a disservice to enhancing your skills. The seasoned pros are the ones that can produce the great strategies and then analyze what tactics would help achieve those strategies. It may be social tools, it may not be…but at least those tools would be in the box if needed.

    Great post, and great debate! This is a topic in which I'm sure everyone has different opinions.

  • Bridget Jewell

    What a great post! I'm going to have to agree with you Kasey on this one… Not every PR pro should be advising clients on social media and that social media as a tool is not the right fit for everyone whether that be a company or a PR pro. I feel that every PR pro has a strength – not all of them should consider their strength social media. These individual strengths come together to form a team in a company or an agency that can tackle any particular problem with a variety of tactics and ideas solving the problem at hand or creatinv a successful campaign. I have said so many times to different college students graduating in PR “just remember, social media isn't the say all, end all, be all – it's just another tool (a very important one) in the tool box of tactics you have at your fingertips.”

    Think what the online world would be like if every PR pro had a blog and a Twitter account. I fear that rather than remaining “social” beings, we would forget face-to-face interactions or picking up the phone to chat rather it would turn into 140-character conversations and only interact online which definitely would not benefit the profession.

    All of this being said, I am definitely a cheerleader for social media and all of the different opportunities it has brought to our industry and I know that our profession will continue to evolve as things change in the social world daily.

    Great debate here!

  • krusk

    I also have to agree with Rachel on all points. While I think social media may not be for everyone in general, in Comms/PR it's an important part of the toolbox and certainly everyone going into the industry should at least be dabbling in it to understand it.

  • http://twitter.com/apearson Aaron Pearson

    Sorry, Rachel wins here. It's true that social media isn't right for every client – no single component of the PR arsenal is. But that doesn't give a well-rounded PR professional the ability to opt out on understanding it. How can you know if it's right or not, if you have little understanding of how it works? And let's face it, social media understanding definitely comes with engaging with it. (you know, even just “lurking” is very helpful)

    I realize there are PR specialists out there, especially in big firms like mine, that just do video or media relations or speech writing or whatever, but I don't think that's the audience we're talking about. If you're not getting your feet wet in social media, you're on a fast track to professional oblivion, IMO.

  • Jason Gerdon

    I have to agree with Rachel here. She is absolutely correct that EVERY PR pro must be on Twitter. Regardless of whether or not you're engaging with other PR pros or journalists, it is essential to be proactively measuring the temperature of your stakeholders' feelings through this communications medium. In many industries there is true value to be had in cutting out the middle man and having a direct communications channel with customers; hence the reason Facebook pages work so well for some brands. Also, let’s not forget that our job as PR professionals is to at minimum have the basic understanding of these tools, regardless of whether or not social media is the right tactic to utilize to solve a clients communication problem.

    With that said I do I agree with you Kasey that not every PR pro needs to be a “social media expert.” It is totally acceptable to have a specific expertise, but none-the-less crucial to understand the entire PR toolkit. I am also not so sure that every brand shouldn’t have some sort of social media engagement. Let’s not forget, if Facebook was a county it would be the fourth largest in the world behind only China, India and the U.S. This is just one example, but one I think all brands must take note of. Social media is here to stay in one form or another. As with any PR tactic, with the proper research, it can help drive positive results for any company or brand. With so many consumers and influencers interacting in this social media space though, how can a company/brand not afford to make some effort o join the conversation?

    Great post though guys; I really enjoy this conversation and I think its one more PR pros need to be considering. Cheers.

  • http://www.worob.com/ Worob

    Since I've been in a position to review resumes and interview candidates, it's honestly one of the first things I notice on a resume. If one person has great work experience but no SM experience, I'm more intrigued by the person that has great work experience AND SM experience.

    @Worob
    PR at Sunrise – worob.com

  • http://www.3hatscommunications.com davinabrewer

    krusk, Think we see eye to eye. Mostly I agree with Rachel, so I won't rehash what's been posted. That typed, you and Kasey aren't wrong about SM not being for everyone. Sorry and I don't know the numbers but for every potential contact or customer on Facebook or Twitter (using SM tools) there are plenty more who still aren't.

    Yes those trends are changing and as Rachel says “social media is form of communication.” But it's not the only form of communication. In PR, SM and marketing it's about targeting the right audiences with the right messages the right way, via the right channels. If SM is one of your right channels, go for it.

    Mostly I am talking about businesses, not individuals. As a professional, I LOVE being social: writing, reading and commenting on blogs; and using tools like Twitter and LinkedIn. It's just that I recognize that while those tools are great for me and my practice as a solo PR, others may not get the same value. YMMV.

  • mikeschaffer

    Wow! Where to start?

    Let me begin by saying I have the utmost respect for Kasey and Rachel (and have for quite some time), so I'm not reading their arguments in a vacuum.

    I think the answer to the question is somewhere in between your points. Yes, social media is the biggest trend in the PR world. Yes, there is a universe of connections out there in the form of peers, media and the public.

    In general, I agree with Rachel. Pros who are anticipating a long and successful career should get online NOW.

    However, to Kasey's point, I know plenty of talented PR folks who barely know how to create their personal Facebook page. Not the majority, but enough to say that it isn't a requirement to be a good publicist.

    Final verdict: Rachel's more right but Kasey isn't wrong.

  • http://rbkartworks.wordpress.com Renee Brisson-Khan

    To Both Rachel and Kasey,

    Perhaps it isn't necessarily a platform issue (Twitter or LinkedIn) but more understanding a communication shift from an Industrial to Social model.

    We've gone from an industrial method (Big Company X pushes info on the product to consumers, consumer consumes, feedback was not really easy to give) – to now a social model (Company X sends information about new product socially- launches it with open access to feedback and then responds as the users interact with the product they provide feedback and company x responds with better products. Consumer is active and engaged.) The shift happened very quickly, and I encounter many PR, copy, design, even marketing people who still message the old way, consumers are no longer tolerant to the approach and the marketing/Pr/design/whatever fails.

    Whether a PR person understands platforms such as Twitter and LinkedIn to me is simply an easy indicator if they are playing in this game and are up to date…. Even then I check their LinkedIn/Twitter messaging to see if they really “get it”. After all, anyone can own my design software, that doesn't mean they are an effective designer.

    It isn't just about if you are on a specific platform, but if you essentially understand the new language, the new approach to those consumers who don't want to be “sold”.

    Here are a couple links to check out:
    Cool video to understand the shift: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3qltEtl7H8
    My Slideshare on the subject: http://bit.ly/aLXClD

  • http://twitter.com/marandagibson Maranda Gibson

    I think I'm going to have to agree with Rachel on this one. While social media doesn't fit for everyone, I think the power of a PR professional is at least having an understanding of all forms of connecting with people. Kasey makes some great points, but I think in the end, if the climate of communication is changing, then as a PR professional you need to have some knowledge in all avenues.

    Is it for everyone? Maybe not, but if you have a client that wants to go a pure social media route, you're going to want to be familiar enough to provide that. Good to see some spirited (and respectful) debate.

  • http://www.speedcommunications.com/blogs/earl Steve Earl

    In the not-too-distant future, there will be no social media. It will all just be media – a blend of conventional and social. So PRs need to understand all corners of the media, so yes they do need to immerse themselves in social media today or they will have to look for another job in the future. It means lots of hard work, but better we spend the time becoming real 'new' media experts than having to spend half of our lives justifying the value of what we do.

  • http://twitter.com/Amylouhoo Amy Shelton

    What a thought-provoking post! From a student perspective, I feel that many journalism students think that they must master social media in order to 'make it' in the real world. I would agree that it is important to have the proper knowledge and skills about certain social media; however, I do not think that it is necessary to use it in every case. Rachel makes a great point about strategic communication being the basics of PR, and she points out that social media is a form of communication itself. Therefore, I would say that everyone in the industry should have an idea of when to use it and when it is not needed.

    Overall, I really enjoyed this post. Great topic!

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